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Notes and Queries “VICTRIX CAUSA DEUS PLACUIT, SED VICTA PUELLIS”
“VICTRIX CAUSA DEUS PLACUIT, SED VICTA PUELLIS”
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March, 1971 NOTES AND lJ I ana greatly indebted to The Clarendon Press for information regarding Oxford Book of Victorian Verse correspondence and for permission to quote brieay from Q's letter of 29 October 1912. 11 See e.g. Wade, P. 361, 382, 383, 385, 394, 470, 483, 486 «nd 491. " Ibid., p. 3J9. the latest one is dated 28 October 1911." On the other hand Yeats is known to have stayed at the Nassau at least as far back as April 1899. The trouble is that regrettably no evidence has been uncovered" so far to establish beyond doubt Yeats's whereabouts on either of the dates in question; none of the available evidence is as precise as one would like it to be and while some pointers indicate 1900 rather than 1912 the handwriting in this particular letter is somewhat different in character from that of the two 1898 letters and indeed is not unlike the penmanship exhibited in a letter of 1915 (facsimile in Wade, p. 596)." The evidence for preferring either 1900 or 1912 is thus suggestive rather than conclusive. F. G. ATKINSON. The University of New England, New South Wales. 19 1 gratefully acknowledge in this connection the assistance of Professor A. N. Jeffares who kindly supplied several other dales of stays by Yeats at tbo Nassau: none of these, however, was later than January 1911. If I am indebted to Professor William M. Murphy of 1New York University for this information. 7 1 am grateful to Mr. J. C. Maxwell for bringing to my attention these facts about his handwriting. Readers* Queries 'THELLING AND SHOWING—Wayne C. 21 Booth in The Rhetoric of Fiction (1961) discusses at length the antithesis between telling and showing in a novel. For this precise formulation, he cites no writer earlier than Joseph Warren Beach, The Method of Henry James (1918). In 1908, George Saintsbury wrote, in the Introduction to the volume of the Oxford Thackeray containing The Wolves and the Lamb and other pieces, that in Denis Duval there is " a certain too great proneness to ricit—to telling us wha; t has happened instead of showing it to us in the happening " (p. xiii). Did any earlier critic use these two verbs antithetically to the same purpose? EDD. "WICTRXX CAUSA DEIS PLACUIT, v SED VICTA PUELLIS".—In cL 8 of The Water Babies, Charles Kingsley describes this " legend " as being inscribed Downloaded from https://academic.oup.com/nq/article-abstract/18/3/109-b/4606531 by Cornell University Library user on 03 November 2019 letter is the anxiously-awaited reply to Quiller-Couch's request then it could be dated 6 October 1900, which was in fact a Saturday. Everything that is known about Yeats, however, scarcely makes it likely that by 1912 he had become any less dilatory in dealing with his correspondence than he undoubtedly was in 1900: although there is at least some evidence that things ran relatively smoothly for Quiller-Couch when negotiating with Yeats for The Oxford Book of Victorian Verse. In the extant correspondence over this anthology" there are no complaints about Yeats but merely a brief note from Quiller-Couch to Carman, dated 29 October 1912, accompanying the final instalment of " make-up" and stating simply that Yeats, " JE", Synge and James Stephens are " certified all right". So it would appear that Yeats caused Quiller-Couch and the Press no difficulties in 1912. Quiller-Couch also adds that " there may be small fees" {italics mine) whereas Yeats in his letter has made it clear that there will be fees. Another possible objection to 1912 as the date for Yeats's letter is that by that time the poet's business affairs, major and minor, had been handled for more than a decade by A. P. Watt. Yeats placed great reliance on this agent and in his published letters is constantly referring correspondents to Watt rather than commit himself on matters of royalties, translation-rights and the like." It seems odd, therefore, that in 1912 Yeats should not have referred Quiller-Couch to Watt, rather than to Unwin or Bullen, over a matter involving fees: in 1900, on the other hand, Yeats was not yet in association with Watt, the first meeting between them having taken place in 1901." As far as can be ascertained from the available evidence Yeats seems not to have stayed at the Nassau Hotel in South Frederick Street, Dublin, after 1911. He stayed there often, as is well known, en route to and from Ireland, but of twentynine letters from that address in Wade's collection, covering a period of nine years, 109 QUERIES 110 NOTES AND QUERIES dialectal categories are no more precise than " Northern " and " Southern ", does not and indeed is not qualified to make. To this minor poem of 364 lines she has devoted an expansive edition of over 250 pages, concerned mostly with the establishment and explication of the text. It exists EDD. in five manuscripts, one of them incomplete, and their variations and imperfections certainly provide scope for the textual editor. Mrs. Miskimin's introduction includes an excursus (pp. 20-41) on the theory of textual ROSSETTI SONNETS (ccvi. 32).— criticism and an attack on the traditional The sonnets are printed in Letters of method, described as that of " recension " Dante Gabriel Rossetti (ed. Doughty and (though recension in the strict sense is only part of the process). But she gives only a Wahl), IV, 1952-1953. crude and derivative account of the classical COURCE WANTED (cxcvii. 173).—The method, which, properly applied, does not quatrain is a chapter heading in as she alleges, seek to establish " priorities " Kipling's The Naulahka. See Chapter 2, or between manuscripts (she can never have see Rudyard Kipling's Verse. Definitive read Housman's attacks on editors who rely on the authority of a " good " manuscript), Edition (London, 1940), p. 536. but to establish their relationships so that ANTHONY W. SHIPPS. one may know which are independent witIndiana University Libraries, nesses and which are not, and, in suitable Bloomington, Indiana 47401, U.S.A. cases, to permit of the logic of recension. Nor does the classical method admit agreements in right readings as evidence (p. 31), though inexpert or confused editors have often done so; the orthodox theory asserts clearly that only agreements in error (nonSUSANNAH: AN ALLITERATIVE original readings) can be admitted as proof POEM OF THE FOURTEENTH CEN- of genetic relationships. It seems doubtful TURY, edited by Alice Miskimin. New whether Mrs. Miskimin has ever read a Haven and London: Yale University careful exposition, such as Paul Maas's, of the classical doctrine. It does not discredit Press, 1969; pp. xviii, 255; $7.50. GUSANNAH, more generally known as a method to give a false account of it, nor is ^ The Pistill of Susan, is a treatment in it discredited by being misapplied by its bob-and-wheel stanzas, with strong allitera- practitioners, as was obviously the case in tion, of the story of Susannah and the previous editions of this poem, since three Elders. It is competent but undistinguished. of Mrs. Miskimin's predecessors have drawn Andrew of Wyntoun, in his Cronykil of three mutually inconsistent stemmas (all of Scotland, attributed it and other works to them in fact wrong). One may observe that " Huchon of the Awle Ryale", whose the " direct" method of editing used by identity is a vexed question into which Mrs. Professor Kane, and here commended and Miskimin refuses to enter. It is perhaps followed, is even more liable to misuse by relevant that Susannah, on the evidence of the unskilful, since there is no control at all various features of its language, would seem over the editor's judgement. In this text the to have been written in the southern part of relationships of the manuscripts are comthe North of England (e.g. in southern plicated by cross-agreements produced Yorkshire), somewhere along the border either by independent coincident error or between ME. a and p as the reflexes of OE. (less probably) by contamination, but the a, but not in the further North and certainly problem is not as insoluble as Mrs. Misnot in Scotland {though it has previously kimin herself thinks. From her figures on been published as a Scottish text); but this is pp. 34-5 it appears that the MSS. PVA agree a judgment which Mrs. Miskimin, whose together in presumed error no less than 102 Replies Reviews Downloaded from https://academic.oup.com/nq/article-abstract/18/3/109-b/4606531 by Cornell University Library user on 03 November 2019 in " lockets of Charles the First's hair". Has this any basis in fact? At any rate this adaptation of Lucan's line about Cato (Bell Civ., I. 128) remained sufficiently current to be used by Naomi Mitchison as epigraph to The Conquered {1923). March, 1971